The following are messages relating to student fees posted to the continuing-education list in 1997.

(This may not be a full collection of all messages, and some messages have been edited. Some messages posted to the list may be represented here only as quoted by subsequent messages. I have tried not to lose any of the sense or main points made! The messages may not be in any particular order [the order is the order they were in when I used http://www.mailbase.ac.uk/lists-a-e/continuing-education/search.html to search for messages relating to fees ...])

Andrew Stevenson

21/1/1999

 


RE: P.T Student Fee

M Milne-Picken (m.milne-picken@uclan.ac.uk)
Wed, 24 Sep 97 16:18:00 GMT

We don't have seperate 'CE' students at the University of Central Lancashire - it always has been 'mainstream' - but you may be interested to know that in the new HEFCE funding model for 1998/99, there is an assumption that PT UG students will pay fees pro rata to the full time band 1 fee (750pounds), ie if you use a 120 points per year full time equivalent, the fee for 20 credits would be 125 pounds. Earlier in the year HEFCE intended to use Band 2 rates (1600 pounds) for those subjects classified at the higher level for FT UG, but dropped this when the post-1992 universities (who have the vast bulk of such students) pointed out that this was contrary to the Secretary of State's guidance when fee banding was introduced in the early 1990s.

Of course by the time we actually get to 1998/99, the government are proposing that the FT UG fee should be 1000 pounds undifferentiated, but means tested with the balance made up by the LEA!!

My advice is to work on the assumption that the fee level should be pro rata Band 1 FT UG at 750 pounds. Of course you can collect less - or more -, but HEFCE will assume in their grant calculations that you will be collecting this amount, so you will be losing/gaining income accordingly.

Your institution's HEFCE Regional Officer should be able to confirm this - if you don't want to take my word for it.

Mike Milne-Picken
Head of Planning
University of Central Lancashire
PRESTON
PR1 2HE

Tel: 01772 892391
Fax: 01772 892943
E-mail: m.milne-picken@uclan.ac.uk

http://www.uclan.ac.uk/other/uso/plan/planhom.htm

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We are about to embark on a debate with the University about fees for
Level 0 (Foundation) and Level 1 Certificate of Higher Education (CHE)
modules.

In the C.E. Department, we currently charge 60 pounds for a 20 CATS module
but the (few) students who take individual modules alongside f.t. students
in 'the mainstream' pay fees akin to L.A. fees on a pro-rata basis (130 or
270 pounds per 20 CATS module depending on the 'band'). We have entered
the debate previously and reached a stalemate but we have to try to find a
solution without making costs prohibitive to our current constituencies of
students.

I wouUse of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at E:\listplex\SYSTEM\SCRIPTS\filearea.cgi line 451, line 252. ld be interested to hear of any similar debates/solutions!! and
particularly any info on fees for p.t students taking degrees in
mainstream departments.

Thank you,
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Dr Viv Shelley
University of Durham
Director of Continuing Education
University College Stockton
University Boulevard
Thornaby
Stockton-on-Tees TS17 6BH
Tel: 01642 335384
Fax: 01642 335360
e-mail v.m.shelley@durham.ac.uk
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P.T Student Fees

Diane Jacks (aed6dj@LUCS-03.NOVELL.LEEDS.AC.UK)
Wed, 24 Sep 1997 15:42:47 GMT

Is there a misunderstanding here? I thought the original message from Viv Shelley referred to part-time (mainstreamed) CE students, not Continuing Professional Education students.
Diane Jacks

From: lhowells@shefc.ac.uk
Organization: SHEFC
To: continuing-education@mailbase.ac.uk
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 14:03:11 0000
Subject: Re: P.T Student Fees
Priority: normal
Reply-to: continuing-education@mailbase.ac.uk

Dear Frank

I thought you might find the below interesting. Since CPE is not
subsidised in England there appears to be an "interesting" pricing
strategy being adopted.

Laurence

> Date: Sun, 21 Sep 1997 10:19:04 +0100 (BST)
> From: V M Shelley
> To: continuing-education@mailbase.ac.uk
> Cc: Jane Inman
> Subject: P.T Student Fees
> Reply-to: continuing-education@mailbase.ac.uk

>
> We are about to embark on a debate with the University about fees for
> Level 0 (Foundation) and Level 1 Certificate of Higher Education (CHE)
> modules.
>
> In the C.E. Department, we currently charge 60 pounds for a 20 CATS module
> but the (few) students who take individual modules alongside f.t. students
> in 'the mainstream' pay fees akin to L.A. fees on a pro-rata basis (130 or
> 270 pounds per 20 CATS module depending on the 'band'). We have entered
> the debate previously and reached a stalemate but we have to try to find a
> solution without making costs prohibitive to our current constituencies of
> students.
>
> I would be interested to hear of any similar debates/solutions!! and
> particularly any info on fees for p.t students taking degrees in
> mainstream departments.
>
> Thank you,
> *******************************************************************
> Dr Viv Shelley
> University of Durham
> Director of Continuing Education
> University College Stockton
> University Boulevard
> Thornaby
> Stockton-on-Tees TS17 6BH
>
> Tel: 01642 335384
> Fax: 01642 335360
> e-mail v.m.shelley@durham.ac.uk
>
> ********************************************************************
>
>

Laurence Howells
Funding Directorate
Scottish Higher Education Funding Council
Tel 0131-313 6528 Fax 0131 313 6501
E-mail lhowells@shefc.ac.uk
Website: http://www.shefc.ac.uk/shefc/welcome.htm
School of Continuing Education
University of Leeds
LS2 9JT
Phone 0113 233 3223
Fax 0113 233 3246

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