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Steve: that is the very article which I have been working on for several years, in order to correct errors in it. The whole article should be ignored; it is totally unreliable. Amongst other errors, Holletaverne cannot be 'holly' (since the spelling of that word with -ll- is modern), nor 'holy' (since the document writes -ll-). And I did know about the website containing this article, as I am the maintainer of it.

From: The English Place-Name List <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Stephen Doughety <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: 17 October 2022 23:33
To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Holletaverne, Ipswich

Hi Keith,

I don’t know if this helps

https://suffolkinstitute.pdfsrv.co.uk/customers/Suffolk%20Institute/2014/01/10/Volume%20XII%20Part%202%20(1905)_The%20Chaucer-Malyn%20family%20Ipswich%20V%20B%20Redstone_184%20to%20199.pdf

On page 189, the Holletaverne is translated as "Holly Tavern”. There's certainly a number of pubs in England called the Holly Bush, so I suppose it is possible. Also, I wonder if it might have been the ‘Holy' tavern as it seems the land belonged to the Augustinian Priory of Holy Trinity?

https://www.ipswich-lettering.co.uk/monasteries.html

Steve

On 11 Oct 2022, at 13:41, Keith Briggs <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Ipswich had a tavern (in the modern Tavern St) recorded as le Holletau’ne 1309, le Holletaverne 1315. I suspect the specific is OED holl, n. (ME holle) `cavern, den'. If so, it would have a sense connection to the modern "dive" (US, from 1871 according to OED), and perhaps even the famous Cavern Club in Liverpool.

Does this inn-name occur elsewhere? In fact, are there any older inn-names recorded at all? (Cox, English inn and tavern names has nothing before 1350.)

Keith